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4:20

Hello everyone!

In this post, I’d like to address a recurring issue with the time displayed on Night Stand’s icon. We’ve been getting many comments and support e-mails with either praise or hate. Some people ask to remove it, some accuse us of being drug addicts…boy, 4:20 certainly stirred things up!

Night Stand Icon

I must admit it’s rather amusing for me to watch what’s happening. Being perfectly honest with you, 4:20 on the icon is a pure coincidence. When designing the application, I typed in digits almost randomly, paying attention to visual aspect only: I wanted them to look good and make a nice composition. That’s it. Seriously. I cross my heart, I’m not lying here.

It boils down to cultural differences. As defined by Urban Dictionary:

4:20 was the designated time for a small group of smokers at San Rafael High School in California to meet at a specific location and light up. The number originates some time around 1971. It has since been adopted by smokers the world over as the “universal time to get high.”

The thing is: this association does not exist where I live. Statement that this notion has been adopted as the “universal time to get high” is not true. I am Polish, I live in Poland and 4:20 doesn’t mean anything here. I learned about it from Night Stand comments in App Store. Now I realize that it’s popular in United States, not sure about the rest of the world though. I did ask friends from Germany, Sweden, Czech Republic and Netherlands — and none of them was familiar with 4:20. One guy from UK heard about it from an American movie. In India this number is correlated with theft and cheating. So 4:20 certainly is a symbol, but: it’s meaning is geography-dependant. I  realize this survey was amateur and incomplete to say the least, but my goal was to hint our American users that what they perceive as universal might not be in other parts of our lovely planet :-)

So…it turns out to be an issue which doesn’t quite transfer to global culture, hence our decision is to not change it. Simple as that. We’ve been getting lots of positive feedback about it too and actually — most of our users ignore it altogether.

Summing it up, I’d like to add another 4:20 reference, this time from literature. Maybe it will shed a different, more interesting light on this matter. On the same page of Urban Dictionary, there’s a quote from H.P. Lovecraft’s story “In the Walls of Eryx”:

I had encountered at least one of those curious mirage-plants about which so many of our men told stories. Anderson had warned me of them, and described their appearance very closely—the shaggy stalk, the spiky leaves, and the mottled blossoms whose gaseous dream-breeding exhalations penetrate every existing make of mask…Although everything was spinning perilously, I tried to start in the right direction and hack my way ahead. My route must have been far from straight, for it seemed hours before I was free of the mirage-plant’s pervasive influence. Gradually the dancing lights began to disappear, and the shimmering spectral scenery began to assume the aspect of solidity. When I did get wholly clear I looked at my watch and was astonished to find that the time was only 4:20. Though eternities had seemed to pass, the whole experience could have consumed little more than a half-hour.

Full story is available here. Big recommendation actually: H.P. Lovecraft is a classic, you really should know his works.

ps. To clear it up: we are not pot smokers :-)

11 Comments
Gabe on February 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

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Gabe on February 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Sorry that was a little off topic, wasn’t it?

Ben Boice on February 4, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Well the random idea is good but I’m wondering if for an alarm can you make it a song from the iPod. So the person wakes up to a song on their iPod.

Mark on February 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM

I still haven’t figured out the Snooze. Any help would be nice. Also if you double tap to dim and single tap to increase brightness my iphone just stops their. another double tap or single tap does nothing

Scott Thornton on February 13, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Oh come on.. It’s just like back in the 60-70-80′s when analog watches/clocks were all the rage.. They all showed the same time in the ads. the time was 10 to 2pm/am and 30 seconds aka 1:50:30 . this gave all the 3 hands on the watch/clock an equal 1/3 proportion on the display.

No one smokes dope religiously at that time. Ok.. maybe a few of us..

Scott Thornton on February 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Just change the icon to 4:28 and move on…
Get a new bunch of ranters on your case…

Hynuk on March 3, 2009 at 8:16 AM

I think you should leave the icon. Anyone who has trouble with “4:20″ is going to be an annoying, revenue-sucking customer in the long run anyway.

To think that people get their panties in a bunch over certain numerals on a clock is ludicrous. Are these people pointing at their clocks and screaming foul the two times during the day that it’s 4:20? Get a life!

I didn’t even notice the numbers until I visited this blog. Ironically, the more attention and hype – especially hatred – that is given to this “time of day,” the more controversial and important it becomes. So if you don’t like it, shut the f@#k up and move on with your life. It’ll go away.

Runescope on March 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM

From what my friends tell me (I don’t smoke pot either), the 4:20 pot connection has something to do with the birthday of Adolf Hitler (April 20). Don’t ask me, I can’t make the connection and I don’t care to try lol

Mo on March 25, 2009 at 7:42 AM

I would have responded “I like to get high. what of it?”

After all, this isn’t something that actually requires any justification.

Michal on April 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM

I’m surprised people aren’t bitching about the name SpoonJuice! (just think about it) That’s worse than 4:20! LOL

Bardzo lubje wasze aplikacje!

(Sorry, I can speak Polish very well, but my spelling is horrible.)

Piotr on April 6, 2009 at 4:46 PM

Thanks for your support gals and guys! Just to reassure everybody: we are not going to change the icon. It’s too much fun :)

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